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Armin Thinnes

MoD Germany

UCATT-LSS (Live Simulation Standards)


Armin Thinnes is a project manager in the Federal Office for Equipment, Information Technology and In-Service Support (BAAINBw) in Koblenz.

Born in 1967, he graduated in 1991 in Electronic Engineering and worked in the computer industry for more than 5 years.

In 1996 he joined the Bundeswehr procurement organisation BWB. Since 1997 he is responsible for the system technologies of the German CTC in Letzlingen, EXCON an communications. He also was the project manager for the Antitank-Helicopter Engagement-Simulator-Program. In addition to the projekt-management, he is working on NMSG activities and international standards in the live simulation domain.

In 2005 he joined the NMSG-working group UCATT (MSG-032) as the German speaker. With MSG-063 UCATT-2 he continued his contribution to the group.

In 2011 he took over the UCATT-chairmanship for MSG-098 UCATT Architecture and became vice chairman of MSG-099 UCATT Standards. Since 2015, he is chairman of MSG-140 UCATT-LSS.

He is also member of the UCATT SISO PDG and german speaker in the SAAB IUC (international interoperability usergroup).

Armin Thinnes is married and has 2 children aged 18 and 21.


Today’s political situation, the reduction of military personnel and material as well as focussing on certain capabilities drives the needs for multinational collaboration and cooperation in theatre. As depicted in NATO studies from the early 2000, urban areas are continuously increasing in size and number and have become the focal point for unrest and conflict.

Training is vital for successful operations. Live instrumented training in urban areas is one of the most complex training environments imaginable.

As operations are multinational, so has to be training. Multinationalism in Live instrumented training in urban areas in terms of complexity could be considered the „icing on the cake“, as it adds the flavour of interoperability to the scenario!

NATO with the Task-Group UCATT is tackling this problem since years. From analysing use cases focussing on Live Simulation, a generic functional architecture has been developed and constantly revised.

Derived from that architecture, all interoperability-relevant potential external interfaces have been identified and described.

In a staged approach, using both NATO’s and SISO’s organisation and procedures, the UCATT group (to date MSG-140 UCATT LSS) is developing a family of industry-standards for these identified interfaces. The first industry-standard for the LASER engagement interface has been officially put in place beginning of 2016. It was endorsed by NMSG (NATO Modelling And Simulation Group) in February 2018 and will be promulgated by NSO as NATO STANREC 4816 soon. Following a user-requirement driven prioritization, the group now step-by-step approaches each and every interface-implementation and either develops new standards or tries to use and/or enhance existing standards.

The use of those standards in marketed products from industry will enable the required international interoperability in live training. Besides the delivered standards, being the only live simulation group within both NMSG and SISO, UCATT has evolved into a focal point of live simulation, serving as a gateway for military end-users, procurement agencies and industry.